39 | Is Church Discipline a New Covenant Practice? (Part 2)

Welcome to episode 39 of the UnSunday Show. This episode is a continuation of the topic of church discipline that I started in the last episode. I continue my look at Matthew 18:15-20, which is used as a proof text by church leaders for the practice of modern church discipline. I wrap up a couple of loose ends in this episode that I think need to be added to this discussion because I believe we’ve brought an Old Covenant practice into the New Covenant assembly. Here are the links I mentioned:

– Mike


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38 | Is Church Discipline a New Covenant Practice?

Welcome to episode 38 of The UnSunday Show! The topic of what we call church discipline has been on my mind the last couple of years. I’ve tried writing down my thoughts about it but writing just isn’t my thing any more. At least not right now. It’s easier to talk about it than to write about it. Here are some of my initial thoughts on church discipline in light of my understanding of the New Covenant.

Matthew 18:15-20 is the go to passage most often used as a proof text for the validity of church discipline. It’s the one that I was trained to use and that I used. But what if this passage, like so many others in the first four books of the New Testament, belongs in the Old Covenant, not the New Covenant? What if we’ve incorrectly inserted ourselves into it?

I cover four main ideas in this episode concerning church discipline that have brought me to the conclusion that Matthew 18:15-20 belongs in the Old Covenant. 

  • The word ‘church’ isn’t in this passage.
  • The passage is laced with Old Covenant language spoken to Old Covenant Jews.
  • Israel was under Roman rule and subject to Roman laws and control.
  • The process explained in this passage is not repeated in the New Covenant scriptures even though there were times it could have been.

I’m sure I’ll be talking more about this in the future as I’m only scraping the surface of where my thoughts have taken me the last couple of years with this topic.

-Mike


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Is There a Tithe in the New Covenant?

Welcome to episode 36 of The UnSunday Show. Starting with this episode, I’m shaking things up a little with a new format. All of the past audio episodes of this show have been posted to YouTube as they’ve been published but starting today, the YouTube version of the show will be video instead of audio. I’m now publishing each episode in both audio (for the podcast) and video (for YouTube) and the episodes will be much shorter. If you haven’t seen the UnSunday YouTube channel, check it out at:

https://www.youtube.com/channel/UClJ1lcYOVaKXaj55kMp-g6Q

For this first audio/video episode, let’s tease out the idea of the tithe in the New Covenant? Does God require a tithe? Am I in disobedience if I’m not tithing? We’re quick to take isolated passages out of context to attempt impose a tithe on people but under the Old Covenant there were many tithes and the tithes were never money. Under the New Covenant, the tithe has disappeared. Let’s talk…


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Episode 34: Jesus is Better

Welcome to episode 34 of The UnSunday Show with Mike & Mac. This episode is a continuation in many ways of last week’s episode. We recorded this one immediately after last week’s with the intention of making it its own episode, and here it is! 

Jesus is better. That’s one of the themes of the New Testament letter to the Hebrews. Jesus is better. He’s better than the angels, he’s better than Moses, he’s better than the Levitical priests of the Old Covenant, he’s better than the Old Covenant. All of these things in the Old Testament were types and shadows that pictured Jesus, but Jesus is better. He’s a better priest with a better sacrifice, a better mediator with a better covenant. Let’s talk about it…


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Episode 33: A Contaminated Grace is No Longer Grace

Welcome to episode 33 of The UnSunday Show. Why are there so many burdensome rules in organized Christian religion when Jesus promised rest and relief from those same heavy burdens? When we read the Bible as though all of it applies to us, the lines blur between the Old Covenant and the New Covenant, resulting in a fatal mixology of confusion and harm.

This fatal mixology is the springboard of our conversation in this episode. Push Play and join the discussion.


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Episode 28: The System We Call Church

Welcome to episode 28 of The UnSunday Show. At its core, The UnSunday Show is a podcast about the system we call church. To a very large extent, this system has come to us via church history, religious tradition, and theological distinction, not from the New Testament. Mike talks about that system we’ve inherited in this episode. He also makes an exciting announcement about the future of The UnSunday Show. Push Play and join the conversation.


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